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12/20/2018 13 Comments LILLY MAEThanks to Jennifer for sharing this great story of her dog, Lilly Mae's recovery from a fibrocartilaginous embolism (FCE). While recovery from FCE (and other neurological conditions, such as IVDD) is quite common, understandably most people prefer to put this difficult period behind them and we don't get to share these important stories. Tell us about Lilly Mae's experience with FCELilly had a Fibrocartilaginous embolism (FCE) on January 10, 2018. She followed her dad into the bedroom, and just dropped at his feet, and could not get up. There were no warning signs, no yelps of pain, she wasn't playing before it happened, none of the typical things that are looked for in an FCE. It was 7pm, so we rushed her to an emergency vet where she got so much blood work done, urine sample, and x-rays. They could find nothing wrong. The emergency vet suggested it could be an FCE, but could not confirm without an MRI. She saw a neurologist the next day who confirmed with an MRI that is was an FCE. Initially Lilly was paralyzed in 3 legs, both hind, and 1 front. She regained use of the front leg the next day. As of today, 6 months later, she has use of all her legs, except her left hind is very weak. She's not able to do a lot of the things she used to do. It takes a huge effort to get out into the yard, because there are 3 steps leading to it. She can't play with her brothers like she used to. When she does run, her back legs do a little bunny hop. She never really lost control of her urine etc, but if she does happen to fall, she will poop without noticing it. Could you describe your daily routine? We get up between 4:45am and 5:00am. I have to be at work by 6am, so we are on a tight schedule. If I'm lucky she will get up the first time I ask her, but she's super stubborn. Once she gets up, she will go outside to pee. Sometimes she can't hold herself up, so she has to be cleaned up. She then eats her morning kibble. Her morning kibble has to be served to her in bed, she will not eat out of her regular bowl in the morning for some reason. This is a new thing that happened after her FCE. While she eats, I get ready for work. Once done, she will go back outside to poop. She comes in and gets CBD oil (to help manage her arthritis), and settles down to go back to sleep. I work until 3:00pm, so my husband bought an in home camera to monitor her activities, and we are able to speak to her through it if needed. I get home from work around 3:30pm. Lilly is usually waiting at the door. We go outside, she does her business, then we take a walk around the garden. Depending on the weather she may lounge around outside, or come in, and lay around. She eats a home-cooked dinner at around 5:30pm (she will not eat kibble for dinner). That also happened after her FCE. After dinner she usually goes to relax with her dad, and watches TV. She goes out to use the bathroom around 9:30pm, then gets more CBD oil. I am off on Tuesday, so that is pool day for her. She has a baby pool she likes to walk around in, and drink the water. It's like her giant water bowl. Lilly enjoys sleeping in on weekends. She gets up whenever she feels like it. She pretty much likes to do her own thing, whether it be lounging outside, or running around. She gets tired very quickly, so any activity requires a nap afterwards! We try to keep her on a schedule, so her activities are close to the same on weekends. In the summer, she enjoys going to the bay. One weekend a month is spent on getting ingredients, and cooking large batches of food for her dinners. Would you recommend any products to managed FCE?
What physical therapy have you tried?We did do PT for about 2 months. She got laser therapy, and hydro therapy. I'm not sure that it did anything more than we could have done with the exercises she does. She hated it! What advice would you offer to someone whose dog has FCE?I would say that recovery from FCE can be frustrating, and extremely exhausting at first, but it does get better. Every little milestone is a reason to celebrate. Don't compare your dog's progress to others.
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13 Comments
Angella Richards
12/24/2018 06:01:28 am
Lilly we are super proud of how far you have come we love you to pieces you have such strength keep it up! We love you Aunt Angella, nick n lexi
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Melanie
12/24/2018 08:58:24 am
Your so special Lilly! Your strong and determined. Aunt Mel loves you so much.
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Zoe der Kinderen
1/10/2021 10:33:03 pm
Jennifer, i realize that it has been 2 years since this post but wanted to comment anyway, our Dog Jasper, had a stroke 5 days ago and is suffering as Lilly did, we are mortified and it has only been a week, I wanted to tell you that the therapies that you used on Lilly we are using too, I give him CBD oil and have a TENS machine that
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Stacey Forte
1/31/2021 06:52:43 pm
Zoe, I came across your comment about Lilly's recovery. My dog had an FCE on 8/20/2020. The first few days are the most difficult. Try not to blame yourself for this. I've had several veterinarian's tell me there's not a scientific reason why it happens, it kind of just does. There isn't anything you could have done differently. Manually expressing the bladder was probably one of the most frustrating things , for both me and my dog, Duke. Maybe ask your vet if they can show you where exactly to squeeze to express Jasper's bladder. As far as bowel movements go, it will just happen naturally, so don't worry as much about that as the bladder. I had Duke in physical therapy three times a week (mat work, massage, underwater treadmill) and acupuncture once a week. Also see if you can find a veterinarian that specializes in integrative medicine/Chinese medicine and herbal medicine. Within two months Duke was back up and walking and the vet sent me home with some exercises for him. The beginning of this year was the first time I was able to take Duke on a 3 mile run. There is hope! I know that its devastating but it will get better. Just stay strong for Jasper. If you have any other questions or need advice, you can email me at [email protected]. Sending positive vibes your way.
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Dawn
10/20/2021 06:07:07 am
Stacey, I just came across this post and it is making me feel a little better. My dog (5 years old) just had an FCE 2 days ago. He can't us his back legs. He was an active dog and walked 3 miles a day with me. I am devastated. I'm going to pick him up from the specialty vet tomorrow. I know it is going to be a long road to recovery. I'm glad Jasper had a good recovery and hope my Lincoln does too.
Jennifer Richards
9/6/2021 12:13:54 pm
I'm so sorry I did not see this sooner. I didn't get any kind of notification. Lilly has a whole different set of obstacles at this point. She's still with me though! She never regained full feeling in her one back leg. She was also diagnosed with Degenerative Myleopathy. Essentially, both of her back legs are now weak. She also has Cancer and heart issues now. I'm so sorry I wasn't much help earlier. Please let me know how everything is going for you.
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Lily
2/19/2021 06:08:41 am
My 3 year old staffxlurcher went completely paralysed yesterday afternoon in his entire back end, he was just hanging around in the garden and suddenly started screaming, when I looked round he was dragging himself towards me looking petrified. I thought he’d broken his back and rushed him to the vet where they diagnosed FCE. He’s home tonight after showing a little improvement on one leg, not much just a few seconds of trying to use it. He seems to be wearing ok so far but no poop as yet. He groans a lot and looks at his legs, I just think he’s trying to work out what’s going on. We’ve ordered a hind end sling and we are calling the local hydrotherapy site tomorrow to book him in. I’ve been devastated since it happened, he’s so young and fit and fast running is his favourite activity. I just don’t want him to lose his quality of life but I’ll do all I can to help him get better.
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Jennifer Richards
9/6/2021 12:19:02 pm
I'm so sorry I'm just seeing your post. I hope everything has gotten better. Please feel free to comment. I'll be checking back regularly.
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Christine
4/22/2023 11:42:57 am
I know this is an old post, but I just need to reach out because I need a bit of hope. My sweet lab, Clark, 7 years old was diagnosed with FCE about 10 days ago. His neurological condition has largely been unchanged and to boot, he has developed a UTI. How long did it take your dogs to get feeling back in the rear legs? I’m starting to lose hope that he’ll get any feeling back ever.
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Reegen
4/26/2023 10:30:43 am
Hi everyone. Honestly, this has really helped seeing other people struggle with this. Our dog had an FCE last night, and has currently lost the use of just his left hind leg. Fingers crossed things don't worsen as it's so early on. I am so heartbroken and I just want say thank you all so much for sharing. Like you all, our 4 year old husky-mix was happy & healthy when this happened out of no where. I am praying we see signs of improvement in the coming weeks.
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Marissa
7/1/2023 12:43:05 pm
Hi all! My 4-year-old 80lb black lab Beau was diagnosed with FCE in July of 2022 so it’s been almost a year. I searched every corner of the internet for stories about FCE so thank you for sharing yours about Lilly! I’m writing this from the other side in hopes that it’ll be helpful to anyone in this situation so I’m sorry if it’s extremely long. It’s presumed that it was caused by the way he landed after jumping off the bed in the morning (something he did thousands of times before) but it caused paralysis on the entirety of his right side (he was unable to even lift his head up). It was shocking and my husband was home when it happened, he took him to the vet while I was completely unaware and taking a final exam over an hour away. It was a surreal experience checking my voicemail from our vet about Beau after getting out of the exam and having no idea what was going on (pitching this to Lifetime or maybe even the Hallmark channel because it was that dramatic and heart-wrenching lol). Our vet didn’t have an MRI machine (neither did any vet within 70 miles) so we drove him almost 2hrs to the closest ER vet. After 4 days in the animal hospital he was diagnosed after his MRI showed an inflamed spinal cord. This was after we ruled out IVDD, an autoimmune disease and god only knows how many other tests :) Did I look at pictures of him every night he wasn’t home and cry? Thank you for asking- yes I did. Thankfully, he still had deep pain sensation in all of his limbs. When we picked him up from his luxurious and expensive stay at the neurology wing at UF, our biggest concern was whether or not he needed his bladder expressed because he used a catheter while there and we were concerned about a UTI. Using the help em harness (a god send and worth every penny) we lugged 80lbs of dead weight outside and he was able to go on his own after 10 minutes and lots of encouraging words. I will need physical therapy myself after taking out this moose more times a day than I can count and flipping him every 4 hours. Only people who have been through this experience know it is exhausting and sad and humorous to the point where my dog peeing on his own was the highlight of my week. Seeing my once very active and energetic dog unable to lift his head was soul crushing. But fortunately dogs don’t care and are resilient and determined. He started physical therapy twice a week 10 days after diagnosis which was acupuncture and laser therapy. There’s videos on YouTube that show ways to stretch your dog that has FCE so we stretched him every time we flipped him like a sad pancake. He began slowly crawling off his bed within that week. By week 2 he was sitting up on his own. Within a month he was standing on his own and started hydrotherapy and more laser. Eight-ish weeks after the FCE he was walking officially without help and we added gym sessions to his PT. I know that was only like 6 sentences about him walking again but in reality it consumed our whole lives during that time. He finished PT in Jan 2023 and it’s apparent he will have some lasting neurologic affects (mostly in his right front limb) but as of now he is happy and wobbly and a little uncoordinated but walking, running, keeping up with his sisters, and able to live his life almost like before and that made it 100% worth it. I know this is literally so long but believe it or not I could keep going so if you need support or have questions just reply :)
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